Comments on: My first church experience… http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience Mon, 21 May 2012 00:31:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Katrina http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-29551 Katrina Thu, 29 Dec 2011 01:03:13 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-29551 to Joshua: re:"Jesus loves you, and so does Bhudda, Allah and Krishna for that matter." They all contradict each other, they can't all be right. Jesus is the only one who claimed that He was the only way to the Father in Heaven. He is the only one who is alive today! to Joshua:
re:”Jesus loves you, and so does Bhudda, Allah and Krishna for that matter.”

They all contradict each other, they can’t all be right. Jesus is the only one who claimed that He was the only way to the Father in Heaven. He is the only one who is alive today!

]]> By: Dr. Michael D. Evans http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-11021 Dr. Michael D. Evans Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:38:32 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-11021 I appreciate your honesty about how you view the church. Please do give it a chance and please give Christ a chance to live in you. I appreciate your honesty about how you view the church. Please do give it a chance and please give Christ a chance to live in you.

]]> By: admin http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-9122 admin Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:57:04 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-9122 @Jeff - Thank you for that reference, and for posting all of that! I would definitely be open to checking it out! I've read Conversations With God too, by the way, and LOVED it. Have an amazing day! @Jeff – Thank you for that reference, and for posting all of that!

I would definitely be open to checking it out!

I’ve read Conversations With God too, by the way, and LOVED it.

Have an amazing day!

]]> By: Jeff http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-9118 Jeff Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:37:15 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-9118 Rachel, This sort of commentary, experience is great and I loved your honesty here. I plan on doing a documentary interviewing many Church people. LOL Preachers, Ministers, Rabbi's, Priests and any other name they go by. Since you post your opinions, views and thoughts on varioius subjects without worrying if any agrees or not, I wanted to share mine on this topic, so you and your readers can take them deeply inside for a bit and see how they feel. All my life, the stuff shoved down our throats at a young age never felt quite right to me. The craziness about this God, that we never see or hear from, pure nonsense to me early on. Then maybe in late teens, early twenties it seems we start hearing the crap about having to be Born again or Saved. I thought to myself, where are these people getting this stuff, these instructions, since I never heard any bible lovers, toters, talk about this in my life to this point. I also started wondering alot about how, according to these born again types, were more or less stating, that my awesome parents, who have lived their whole lives giving, giving and more giving of themselves and loving everyone like nobody's business. Just pure love, all the time oozing out of them, how these two people, my parents could be punished or sent somewhere uncomfortable or undesirable, if they are not born again or saved. This surely is nonsense in my mind, for me. So then, skip to my 15'th year of marriage and some arguing going on between me and my wife, lots of it this one week in particular. I slept downstairs one night alone and distraught that things were going this way in my life. I started asking God what is going on, what can I do differently and if God would come closer to me, assist me in some sort of turnaround, and mostly help me become the best person a human being could ever hope to become. Not long after that, maybe a couple weeks, I was browsing around in the private investment club site I was a member of. They had this investment site set up with various sections for the members to interact with each other and also learn other things like, cooking, vacations, sports/fitness, movies and BOOKS. Never ever being a person who would read a book or have any desire to, one day I found this urge to venture into the book section. This was very strange as I look back on it, because after months of being a member there, I never had the least bit of desire to look at this book section of the forum/site. As I browsed down the titles on the left side, I quickly was captivated by one title there. Conversations With God. I saw there were about 7 posts or comments there under that title and so I was intrigued and wanted to see what this could be about. All of the responses or comments were similar and had me wanting to visit the book store and have a peek inside these books. At the time I thought it was just one book, but found out it was a series of books. One peek inside was all it took! I was floored by what I read on just one page and was soon buying one each week and reading them from cover to cover nonstop. For me Rachel, there is nobody, nowhere that can come up with this info, make it all up and have it be so good, feel so right and make such perfect sense, every single statement or answer to Neale's questions felt so right to me and made such perfect sense, it could not come from anyone other than God, Creator, Source, Source Energy, you name it. Now, after many books by many people, entities, and Masters, I have come to learn about how the bible came to be, who put it all together and where. I have learned about how Jesus's desciples, apostles and even friends and family were all arguing after he left about what exactly he meant in many of his speeches or teachings, sermons if you will. They argued about all of it and for some of what he taught that they did understand, they did not agree with him on some of it. Letters had to be sent to one of his closest friends or disciple, because they had gotten way off that path with what they were teaching their followers. Paul was really Saul and a bad man, against Jesus the whole time, until Jesus visited him in spirit and had a litte talk with him. I learned about the beatdown given by the early Catholic leaders, upon anyone who did not agree or follow THEIR way and decided upon beliefs. Constantine put together a council of Roman politicians and tax collectors at the Council of Nicea and they are the ones who decided what was going to be the Universal religion, belief system moving forward. Sorry for the long response here, but I would love for you or anyone else with an open mind to look into the book sold at ShantiChristo.com, a book channeled or given to us by Jeshua (Jesus). Also either visit Judith Coates in Tacoma Washington or buy the book she sells called Jesus and Mastership. This book in his own words was given to a minister in Texas years ago, inspired writings, and it is all about his late teens, his twenties, on into his ministry and some even about after the resurrection and his meetings with Moses and Elijah to learn about his new life on the Spiritualized Earth plane where he can pop into this plane and out of it at will. Judith Coates is the most pure and clear channel for him on Earth. She was his teacher with the Essenes on Mt Carmel when he was a youth and they have hooked up in this day and time to share his teachings for the people living here and now. When you visit her during her monthly sessions with HIm, you can ask him anything. You will surely see, that he knows you well, everything about you and even your current thoughts flowing through your mind! He knows this life of yours and all your other lives too. There is no psychic on the planet who can do this or who knows you like this. I have many sessions saved on my PC here and I am convinced bigtime, that this is Jeshua coming through this channel. Thanks for allowing me to share the road that I have gone down with regards to this subject! Jeff Rachel,
This sort of commentary, experience is great and I loved your honesty here. I plan on doing a documentary interviewing many Church people. LOL Preachers, Ministers, Rabbi’s, Priests and any other name they go by.

Since you post your opinions, views and thoughts on varioius subjects without worrying if any agrees or not, I wanted to share mine on this topic, so you and your readers can take them deeply inside for a bit and see how they feel.

All my life, the stuff shoved down our throats at a young age never felt quite right to me. The craziness about this God, that we never see or hear from, pure nonsense to me early on.

Then maybe in late teens, early twenties it seems we start hearing the crap about having to be Born again or Saved. I thought to myself, where are these people getting this stuff, these instructions, since I never heard any bible lovers, toters, talk about this in my life to this point.

I also started wondering alot about how, according to these born again types, were more or less stating, that my awesome parents, who have lived their whole lives giving, giving and more giving of themselves and loving everyone like nobody’s business. Just pure love, all the time oozing out of them, how these two people, my parents could be punished or sent somewhere uncomfortable or undesirable, if they are not born again or saved. This surely is nonsense in my mind, for me.

So then, skip to my 15′th year of marriage and some arguing going on between me and my wife, lots of it this one week in particular. I slept downstairs one night alone and distraught that things were going this way in my life. I started asking God what is going on, what can I do differently and if God would come closer to me, assist me in some sort of turnaround, and mostly help me become the best person a human being could ever hope to become.

Not long after that, maybe a couple weeks, I was browsing around in the private investment club site I was a member of. They had this investment site set up with various sections for the members to interact with each other and also learn other things like, cooking, vacations, sports/fitness, movies and BOOKS.

Never ever being a person who would read a book or have any desire to, one day I found this urge to venture into the book section. This was very strange as I look back on it, because after months of being a member there, I never had the least bit of desire to look at this book section of the forum/site.

As I browsed down the titles on the left side, I quickly was captivated by one title there. Conversations With God. I saw there were about 7 posts or comments there under that title and so I was intrigued and wanted to see what this could be about.

All of the responses or comments were similar and had me wanting to visit the book store and have a peek inside these books. At the time I thought it was just one book, but found out it was a series of books.

One peek inside was all it took! I was floored by what I read on just one page and was soon buying one each week and reading them from cover to cover nonstop.

For me Rachel, there is nobody, nowhere that can come up with this info, make it all up and have it be so good, feel so right and make such perfect sense, every single statement or answer to Neale’s questions felt so right to me and made such perfect sense, it could not come from anyone other than God, Creator, Source, Source Energy, you name it.

Now, after many books by many people, entities, and Masters, I have come to learn about how the bible came to be, who put it all together and where. I have learned about how Jesus’s desciples, apostles and even friends and family were all arguing after he left about what exactly he meant in many of his speeches or teachings, sermons if you will.

They argued about all of it and for some of what he taught that they did understand, they did not agree with him on some of it. Letters had to be sent to one of his closest friends or disciple, because they had gotten way off that path with what they were teaching their followers.

Paul was really Saul and a bad man, against Jesus the whole time, until Jesus visited him in spirit and had a litte talk with him.

I learned about the beatdown given by the early Catholic leaders, upon anyone who did not agree or follow THEIR way and decided upon beliefs.

Constantine put together a council of Roman politicians and tax collectors at the Council of Nicea and they are the ones who decided what was going to be the Universal religion, belief system moving forward.

Sorry for the long response here, but I would love for you or anyone else with an open mind to look into the book sold at ShantiChristo.com, a book channeled or given to us by Jeshua (Jesus). Also either visit Judith Coates in Tacoma Washington or buy the book she sells called Jesus and Mastership. This book in his own words was given to a minister in Texas years ago, inspired writings, and it is all about his late teens, his twenties, on into his ministry and some even about after the resurrection and his meetings with Moses and Elijah to learn about his new life on the Spiritualized Earth plane where he can pop into this plane and out of it at will.

Judith Coates is the most pure and clear channel for him on Earth. She was his teacher with the Essenes on Mt Carmel when he was a youth and they have hooked up in this day and time to share his teachings for the people living here and now.

When you visit her during her monthly sessions with HIm, you can ask him anything. You will surely see, that he knows you well, everything about you and even your current thoughts flowing through your mind! He knows this life of yours and all your other lives too.

There is no psychic on the planet who can do this or who knows you like this. I have many sessions saved on my PC here and I am convinced bigtime, that this is Jeshua coming through this channel.

Thanks for allowing me to share the road that I have gone down with regards to this subject!

Jeff

]]> By: Callie http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-3347 Callie Tue, 26 Oct 2010 22:02:04 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-3347 Hey Rachel I actually just stumbled on this post because I was researching for my upcoming juice fast and found some of your other entries. I admire the straight-forward way that you described your experience. I've got to say that there are so many churches out that are all very different. There are places where you can grow and learn in the way that you said you had hoped to. I guess the biggest thing I got from your post was how sad that the message of Love was not conveyed to you on your visit as clearly as it could have been. Honestly, that is the essence of Christianity. "God is Love." And not some kind of sick, judgmental sort of love but the kind of love that is full of compassion and forgiveness. It can be easy to lose sight of that, especially in some religious environments where man's tradition has been built on top of the true power of who God is. It can distort it. I hope you keep seeking to discover this love because it is very real and I something that I feel really happy to have in my life. The whole purpose of Christ dying was not to create a problem as you said before, the problem already existed in that humans were flawed and the laws of the universe would result in them having to pay for those flaws. He died to provide an answer so that the payment and the guilt was no longer on our shoulders. Best of luck on your spiritual and life journey:) Hey Rachel I actually just stumbled on this post because I was researching for my upcoming juice fast and found some of your other entries. I admire the straight-forward way that you described your experience. I’ve got to say that there are so many churches out that are all very different. There are places where you can grow and learn in the way that you said you had hoped to. I guess the biggest thing I got from your post was how sad that the message of Love was not conveyed to you on your visit as clearly as it could have been. Honestly, that is the essence of Christianity. “God is Love.” And not some kind of sick, judgmental sort of love but the kind of love that is full of compassion and forgiveness. It can be easy to lose sight of that, especially in some religious environments where man’s tradition has been built on top of the true power of who God is. It can distort it. I hope you keep seeking to discover this love because it is very real and I something that I feel really happy to have in my life. The whole purpose of Christ dying was not to create a problem as you said before, the problem already existed in that humans were flawed and the laws of the universe would result in them having to pay for those flaws. He died to provide an answer so that the payment and the guilt was no longer on our shoulders. Best of luck on your spiritual and life journey:)

]]> By: Charles Grooms http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-862 Charles Grooms Sun, 18 Apr 2010 00:42:22 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-862 Rachel, I am Spiritual as well. Here is a Fictional account of the 40 days Jesus spent with his disciples after his resurrection. So here is my question. Q: If you spent 3o days with Jesus after his resurrection would you have the right message? Go to www.40dayswithjesus,ning.com for a Free! e-book Rachel, I am Spiritual as well. Here is a Fictional account of the 40 days Jesus spent with his disciples after his resurrection. So here is my question. Q: If you spent 3o days with Jesus after his resurrection would you have the right message? Go to http://www.40dayswithjesus,ning.com for a Free! e-book

]]> By: Mike http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-735 Mike Fri, 11 Sep 2009 13:23:20 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-735 I think Jorge has it about right. If organized religion works for you, that is fantastic. But you don't NEED it, it is simply a resource and a gathering place for others to help you find your "GOD". I spent my younger years searching and questioning. And what I discovered was that the onus was really on me to find, refine and develop my spiritual nature. I personally found organized church to be much more of an impediment to this than an aid. But I don't look down on those who find it a tremendous help in their own personal searches. We are all unique individuals on this big blue orb. And in the end all that we have is each other, in the here and now. The fact is that even if we personally know thousands and thousands of people in this life; that 50 years after we die there will be precious few of the living who will remember us at all. So in the big scheme of things we are here for just an instant. And then we are gone. So as Jorge said, "Love yourself and love others as you do yourself". That is an almost universal tenet of every major religion that man has invented. So that is truly the bottom line. I think Jorge has it about right.

If organized religion works for you, that is fantastic. But you don’t NEED it, it is simply a resource and a gathering place for others to help you find your “GOD”.

I spent my younger years searching and questioning. And what I discovered was that the onus was really on me to find, refine and develop my spiritual nature. I personally found organized church to be much more of an impediment to this than an aid. But I don’t look down on those who find it a tremendous help in their own personal searches.

We are all unique individuals on this big blue orb. And in the end all that we have is each other, in the here and now. The fact is that even if we personally know thousands and thousands of people in this life; that 50 years after we die there will be precious few of the living who will remember us at all. So in the big scheme of things we are here for just an instant. And then we are gone.

So as Jorge said, “Love yourself and love others as you do yourself”. That is an almost universal tenet of every major religion that man has invented. So that is truly the bottom line.

]]> By: Jorge http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-719 Jorge Sun, 09 Aug 2009 17:40:52 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-719 Dear Rachel, God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Mohamed, Universe, Positive thoughts, the All, I Am, etc all exists within you already. Church is a place where you can gather and walk with said names; anytime and anyplace. No building required and all the ceremonies therein. Love yourself and love others as you do yourself. Bottom line . . . Peace and Love Dear Rachel, God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, Mohamed, Universe, Positive thoughts, the All, I Am, etc all exists within you already. Church is a place where you can gather and walk with said names; anytime and anyplace. No building required and all the ceremonies therein. Love yourself and love others as you do yourself. Bottom line . . .

Peace and Love

]]> By: Theresa Mayhew http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-717 Theresa Mayhew Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:28:17 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-717 Hi Rachel, Thanks for sharing your experience with your first worship service. As a member of a non-Christian religion, I am always interested in how people find their chosen path to God. It's important for us to respect how people come to our services, to make them feel welcome without overwhelming them. Test driving different services is a great idea. I think you have to get a feeling for how a congregation is before making a commitment to joining one (if that's your intention). Sounds like you have a spiritual nature and are doing just fine on your own. All the best, Theresa Hi Rachel,
Thanks for sharing your experience with your first worship service. As a member of a non-Christian religion, I am always interested in how people find their chosen path to God.

It’s important for us to respect how people come to our services, to make them feel welcome without overwhelming them.

Test driving different services is a great idea. I think you have to get a feeling for how a congregation is before making a commitment to joining one (if that’s your intention).

Sounds like you have a spiritual nature and are doing just fine on your own.

All the best,
Theresa

]]> By: New Jerusalem http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience#comment-714 New Jerusalem Sat, 27 Jun 2009 15:08:59 +0000 http://rachelrofe.com/my-first-church-experience/#comment-714 Rachel, Rachel I ask you think about the message shared, and send me an email soon, and let's chat ok... Acts 7:48-50, 1 Corinthians 3:9, 1 Corinthians 3:16 Yes, I believe in God... I am very thankful for my salvation, and I really enjoy the refreshing Love God shares... When I hear someone claim they don't believe, Have they ever once diligently started seeking him? Can one see what Love looks like? Does Love have wings? Does one experience true Love, and not believe it's real? Can one believe the wind, and gravity is real or not? One has free-will, But if they claim not to believe, The wind will still blow, and they shall continue to dance in what they call gravity... Acts 4:10-12, John 14:6, Isaiah 45:18 Kind Regards, raptureprophecy.com nj Rachel,

Rachel I ask you think about the message shared, and send me an email soon, and let’s chat ok…

Acts 7:48-50, 1 Corinthians 3:9, 1 Corinthians 3:16

Yes, I believe in God…

I am very thankful for my salvation, and I really enjoy the refreshing Love God shares…

When I hear someone claim they don’t believe, Have they ever once diligently started seeking him?

Can one see what Love looks like? Does Love have wings? Does one experience true Love, and not believe it’s real?

Can one believe the wind, and gravity is real or not? One has free-will, But if they claim not to believe, The wind will still blow, and they shall continue to dance in what they call gravity…

Acts 4:10-12, John 14:6, Isaiah 45:18

Kind Regards,
raptureprophecy.com

nj

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